But people who actually listened to the audio heard something that readers didnt get to learn.

Apparently, Andreessen thinks Hillary Clinton was actually president from 2017 until 2021 rather than Donald Trump.

Douthat:But wait, the federal government is run by Donald Trump in this period, right?

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Andreessen:Not really.

Youve got the activists coming at you.

And then youve got the government coming at you.

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So this is, I mean, this is the peculiar thing about the narrative, right?

But deleting an entire line that claims the federal government radicalized hard under Hillary, is just ridiculous.

The New York Times defended the decision to omit the line in an email to Gizmodo on Friday.

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We typically edit transcripts for clarity as to not present factual errors, which is what happened here.

Douthat goes on to ask Andreessen about how Hillary held sway when Trump had the real power as president.

I wouldnt say that, Douthat says.

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But thats clearly not what he meant.

Yarvin thinks liberal institutions and those in journalism and academia hold real sway over society.

Yarvin mentions in the interview that he communicates with Andreesen.

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you might listen to the entire episode onYouTubeif you really feel like subjecting yourself to this garbage.

And the ruling class cant fucking stand it.

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